SCSBOA Rankings, Week 8 (11/21/11)

[Hostrauser]

This is my attempt to compare and adjust scores from competition to competition to create an overall ranking of the competitive environment. The sports polls for colleges do a Top 25, so that's what I will do, too. The rankings are based solely upon statistical analysis of the judges' scores and not personal opinion.


2011 SCSBOA PARADE RANKINGS AS OF 11/21/11 - FINAL
1. Rancho Bernardo H.S., San Diego
2. Riverside King H.S., Riverside
3. Mt. Carmel H.S., San Diego
4. Arcadia H.S., Arcadia
5. Diamond Bar H.S., Diamond Bar
6. Chino H.S., Chino
7. El Dorado H.S., Placentia
8. Glendora H.S., Glendora
9. Henry J. Kaiser H.S., Fontana
10. Valencia H.S., Placentia
11. Diamond Ranch H.S., Pomona
12. Cypress H.S., Cypress
13t. Eastlake H.S., Chula Vista
13t. Notre Dame H.S., Sherman Oaks
15t. Garey H.S., Pomona
15t. Mayfair H.S., Lakewood
17. Arlington H.S., Riverside
18. Gretchen A. Whitney H.S., Cerritos
19t. Mira Mesa H.S., San Diego
19t. Montebello H.S., Montebello
19t. Santiago H.S., Corona
22. John Glenn H.S., Norwalk
23. Loara H.S., Anaheim
24. Gladstone H.S., Covina
25. Arnold O. Beckman H.S., Irvine

2011 SCSBOA OVERALL FIELD RANKINGS AS OF 11/21/11
1. Upland H.S., Upland, CA
2. Rancho Bernardo H.S., San Diego, CA
3. Poway H.S., Poway, CA
4. Mt. Carmel H.S., San Diego, CA
5. San Marcos H.S., San Marcos, CA
6. Arcadia H.S., Arcadia, CA
7. El Dorado H.S., Placentia, CA
8. William S. Hart H.S., Newhall, CA
9. Vista H.S., Vista, CA
10. Chino H.S., Chino, CA
11. Westlake H.S., Westlake Village, CA
12. Los Osos H.S., Rancho Cucamonga, CA
13. Fountain Valley H.S., Fountain Valley, CA
14. Chino Hills H.S., Chino Hills, CA
15. Etiwanda H.S., Rancho Cucamonga, CA
16. Murrieta Valley H.S., Murrieta, CA
17. Thousand Oaks H.S., Thousand Oaks, CA
18. South Hills H.S., West Covina, CA
19. Riverside King H.S., Riverside, CA
20. West Ranch H.S., Stevenson Ranch, CA
21. Vista Murrieta H.S., Murrieta, CA
22. John A. Rowland H.S., Rowland Heights, CA
23. Trabuco Hills H.S., Mission Viejo, CA
24. Mayfair H.S., Lakewood, CA
25. Nogales H.S., La Puente, CA


SCSBOA 6A Top 10
1. Upland H.S., Upland, CA
2. Rancho Bernardo H.S., San Diego, CA
3. Poway H.S., Poway, CA
4. Mt. Carmel H.S., San Diego, CA
5. San Marcos H.S., San Marcos, CA
6. Arcadia H.S., Arcadia, CA
7. El Dorado H.S., Placentia, CA
8. Chino H.S., Chino, CA
9. Fountain Valley H.S., Fountain Valley, CA
10. Etiwanda H.S., Rancho Cucamonga, CA

SCSBOA 5A Top 10
1. Vista H.S., Vista, CA
2. Westlake H.S., Westlake Village, CA
3. Los Osos H.S., Rancho Cucamonga, CA
4. Chino Hills H.S., Chino Hills, CA
5. West Ranch H.S., Stevenson Ranch, CA
6. Trabuco Hills H.S., Mission Viejo, CA
7. Nogales H.S., La Puente, CA
8. Granada Hills H.S., Granada Hills, CA
9. Mira Mesa H.S., San Diego, CA
10. Riverside Poly H.S., Riverside, CA

SCSBOA 4A Top 10
1. William S. Hart H.S., Newhall, CA
2. South Hills H.S., West Covina, CA
3. Valencia H.S., Placentia, CA
4. Carlsbad H.S., Carlsbad, CA
5. Redlands East Valley H.S., Redlands, CA
6. Mira Costa H.S., Manhattan Beach, CA
7. Warren H.S., Downey, CA
8. Frontier H.S., Bakersfield, CA
9. Glen A. Wilson H.S., Hacienda Heights, CA
10. John W. North H.S., Riverside, CA

SCSBOA 3A Top 10
1. Azusa H.S., Azusa, CA
2. Patriot H.S., Riverside, CA
3. Santa Monica H.S., Santa Monica, CA
4. Aliso Niguel H.S., Aliso Viejo, CA
5. Moorpark H.S., Moorpark, CA
6. Liberty H.S., Bakersfield, CA
7. Tesoro H.S., Las Flores, CA
8. El Toro H.S., Lake Forest, CA
9. Independence H.S., Bakersfield, CA
10. Valhalla H.S., El Cajon, CA

SCSBOA 2A Top 10
1. Gladstone H.S., Covina, CA
2. Colony H.S., Ontario, CA
3. West Covina H.S., West Covina, CA
4. Saugus H.S., Santa Clarita, CA
5. Royal H.S., Simi Valley, CA
6. La Puente H.S., La Puente, CA
7. Western H.S., Anaheim, CA
8. North H.S., Bakersfield, CA
9. Ramona H.S., Ramona, CA
10. Murrieta Mesa H.S., Murrieta, CA

SCSBOA 1A Top 10
1. Charter Oak H.S., Covina, CA
2. San Marcos H.S., Santa Barbara, CA
3. Los Angeles H.S., Los Angeles, CA
4. Oxnard H.S., Oxnard, CA
5. Bellflower H.S., Bellflower, CA
6. Santa Margarita H.S., Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
7. Shadow Hills H.S., Indio, CA
8. El Camino Real H.S., Woodland Hills, CA
9. Otay Ranch H.S., Otay Mesa, CA
10. La Costa Canyon H.S., Carlsbad, CA

[Ryan H. Turner]

Enjoy your rankings very much buddy--always have.

[bdeuph]

just curious...How is colony (2a) in second? They have had the highest scores almost all season.

The grid says they're in first also..

[Hostrauser]

You'll note that Colony was 1st in my rankings until this week, too.

Quite simply: the scores at Ramona were pretty inflated and Gladstone's performance at Arcadia was more statistically significant. If it makes you feel any better, Gladstone only scraped ahead by 0.1

[BD94Euph]

I think Santa Margarita will surprise people if they're attending championships...

[stratman15]

Hostrauser,
I would be kind of interested in seeing how this would look with only the bands attending Championships included. I could probably do that myself, but I'm too lazy I guess.

[resetdoitagain]

Well considering he only includes 10 band per division, you actually couldn't give full championships predictions. I'd like to say that I, too, would be interested in seeing this.

[MN2JAZZ]

In the 2A ranking there is an error. Western High School is actually seeded 6th and not LaPuente.

[MN2JAZZ]

I know there is a system you utilize but it does not work the same way you would use for sport teams. You have artistic ezpression and personal taste that can not be factored in.

[Hostrauser]

I know there is a system you utilize but it does not work the same way you would use for sport teams. You have artistic ezpression and personal taste that can not be factored in.

Then how are bands scored? All I'm doing is analyzing the scores.

[Hostrauser]

Hostrauser,
I would be kind of interested in seeing how this would look with only the bands attending Championships included. I could probably do that myself, but I'm too lazy I guess.

Here you go...

CLASS 1A
1. Charter Oak
2. San Marcos
3. Los Angeles
4. Oxnard
5. Bellflower
6. Northview
7. Sunny Hills
8. Lancaster
9. Yucaipa
10. South East
11. Tustin
12. Simi Valley

CLASS 2A
1. Gladstone
2. Colony
3. West Covina
4. Saugus
5. Royal
6. La Puente
7. Western
8. Del Norte
9. Adolfo Camarillo
10. Palisades Charter
11. Serrano
12. Oceanside

CLASS 3A
1. Azusa
2. Patriot
3. Santa Monica
4. Valhalla
5. Valencia
6. Canyon
7. Bonita Vista
8. Golden Valley
9. La Mirada
10. Redondo Union
11. Canyon Springs
12. Patrick Henry

CLASS 4A
1. William S. Hart
2. South Hills
3. Carlsbad
4. Redlands East Valley
5. Warren
6. Glen A. Wilson
7. John W. North
8. Glendora
9. Baldwin Park
10. Eastlake
11. Los Altos
12. La Quinta

CLASS 5A
1. Vista
2. Los Osos
3. West Ranch
4. Nogales
5. Granada Hills
6. Mira Mesa
7. Riverside Poly
8. Westview
9. California
10. El Camino

CLASS 6A
1. Chino
2. Etiwanda
3. Murrieta Valley
4. John A. Rowland
5. Mayfair
6. Savanna
7. West
8. Rancho Verde

[resetdoitagain]

I know there is a system you utilize but it does not work the same way you would use for sport teams. You have artistic ezpression and personal taste that can not be factored in.

"Artistic expression" is one of those phrases that gets thrown around a lot by the boosters, but doesn't usually make sense to anyone else, especially not the judges. There is no way to define that term that doesn't fit one of the objective evaluations outlined in the score sheets. Phrasing and dynamics? That's factored in. Articulations? That is too.

Those (and several other things also on the sheets) are the only measurable methods of communicating artistic passion. And they can theoretically be evaluated objectively (not that everyone shares the same view). That's what the scores are.

Factors of personal taste are largely addressed by the score sheet format and weight of each caption. SCSBOA is music-heavy, as are a lot of other circuits. Within the music caption, subsections define how much each element of sound should relate to the overall score.

It's not a perfect system, and there's certainly more to a show than its score, but in this context it would be hopeless and trivial to try to measure show quality by anything else.

[stratman15]

Much appreciated. Thank you.